# Contested concept: badness (of pain)

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- **Contestedness**: criterion
- **Diagnosis**: The disagreement masks a deeper meta-ethical conflict: is the 'badness' of a sensation defined by its sensory qualities (the 'feel') or by the psychological reaction (the 'desire to stop')? One could argue pain is bad only because it is avoided, while another argues it is avoided because it is already bad.
- **Canonical**: `/concept/badness (of pain)` (data: `/concept/badness (of pain).json`)

## Senses in use
- **Phenomenological badness: A quality inherent in the sensory experience itself, independent of external facts.** — used in 3 claim(s)
- **Functional/Motivational badness: A quality defined by the subject's immediate desire to terminate or avoid the sensation.** — used in 2 claim(s)

## Claims using this term
- [The observation that the 'badness' of pain is not a separate fact from the sensation of the pain itself supports the conclusion that physic…](/claim/claim_0fc7e2962e58.md) _(sense: Phenomenological badness: A quality inherent in the sensory experience itself, independent of external facts.)_
- [The fact that the sensation of physical pain is something an individual intrinsically wants to stop provides justification for the claim th…](/claim/claim_3f1caee1ec6b.md) _(sense: Functional/Motivational badness: A quality defined by the subject's immediate desire to terminate or avoid the sensation.)_
- [The negative value (badness) of physical pain is contained entirely within the subjective experience of how the pain feels, rather than bei…](/claim/claim_605b1fd10966.md) _(sense: Phenomenological badness: A quality inherent in the sensory experience itself, independent of external facts.)_
- [When a person experiences sharp physical pain, such as from stubbing a toe or touching a hot stove, the sensation of hurt itself triggers a…](/claim/claim_76b4afeadfcc.md) _(sense: Functional/Motivational badness: A quality defined by the subject's immediate desire to terminate or avoid the sensation.)_
- [The experience of physical pain is inherently bad or negative.](/claim/claim_c14f1e4dc6b2.md) _(sense: Phenomenological badness: A quality inherent in the sensory experience itself, independent of external facts.)_
